Rescue Me!

[Jelsemium]

Hello!

This thread was named in honor of Diane Farr's stint on the show "Rescue Me!"

This is where you will find ideas for words and hints on plots/storylines. You can ask for a beta or just ask for sympathy.

Starting with the word ideas, there are several sites that have lists of unusual words. (Particularly helpful for those of you who find yourselves staring down

Here are some words that are no longer in use:
Lost Words (http://phrontistery.info/clw.html)

Here's a list of interesting words:
International House of Logorrhea (http://phrontistery.info/ihlstart.html)

This is a search engine that links to many on-line dictionaries:
One Look (http://www.onelook.com/)
This is especially useful because you can look up Scrabble style. (That is, you can pick certain letters that you want to use, like Z*X, and One Look will find words that fit that format.)

And here's a random word (http://www.zokutou.co.uk/randomword/) generator

[scc#1fan]

I was thinking Jels--it would be helpful to know which titles were used last year...that we don't accidently use them again.

Kas

[wildfyre]

Jels, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds, but here is a link to last year's titles.

2006 Summer Challenge (http://www.fanrush.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6350)

[Jelsemium]

Jels, I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds, but here is a link to last year's titles.

2006 Summer Challenge (http://www.fanrush.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6350)

*FacePalm* I didn't think to post that here. Thanks, WildFyre.

Thanks for bringing it up, scc#1fan!

[DreamBrother]

One quick question:

When Don was SAC in Albuquequeue (Man, that's worse than Mississippi..ok maybe equal), was he just in charge of over-seeing everybody else or did he do field work too, do you think? And in which year would it approx. be?
And while Don there, where was Charlie? Had he come back from England?

I know they haven't techinically revealed all this, but if you guys could just give me your opinions on what you think might be, it'd be a great help

Happy writing everyone!

[Jelsemium]

One quick question:

When Don was SAC in Albuquequeue (Man, that's worse than Mississippi..ok maybe equal), was he just in charge of over-seeing everybody else or did he do field work too, do you think? And in which year would it approx. be?
And while Don there, where was Charlie? Had he come back from England?

I know they haven't techinically revealed all this, but if you guys could just give me your opinions on what you think might be, it'd be a great help

Happy writing everyone!

I'd say that Albuquerque is worse than Mississippi, myself.

Let's see. In First Season's "Counterfeit Reality" Kim said something along the lines of it having been "three years" since Don had left New Mexico (MUCH easier to spell ;)) Since the show is basically set in real time, I'd call that around 1992.

I'm not sure if Don would have been a field agent, but I really can't see him being happy with a job that was 100% desk work. My guess is that his job there was basically what it is currently.

In "All's Fair", I believe it was stated that Charlie lived with Susan when he was 20. In one of the first season episodes, mention was made of Charlie being "almost 30" (which I interpreted as meaning 29.)

That means (by my math) Charlie would have been around 26 when Don returned from NM. (The spelling can't get easier than that! :D)

Since there are indications that Charlie has been in Pasadena for several years (In the first season, it was stated that Amita had been his grad student for 2 years), I'd say that Charlie was in Pasadena when Don transferred to LA.

[DreamBrother]

You are awesome :D Thanks!

[Kristen]

Can anyone point me in the direction of information about how the FBI, NSA, and the military generally work together?

[Kristen]

Does anyone remember a scene between Don and Dr. Bradford where Dr. Bradford makes a comment along the lines of "Oh, you'd be surprised what I know."

I think it was in reference to shooting Crystal Hoyle, but I'm not sure. Was this in One Hour, or Take Out?

[DreamBrother]

Does anyone remember a scene between Don and Dr. Bradford where Dr. Bradford makes a comment along the lines of "Oh, you'd be surprised what I know."

I think it was in reference to shooting Crystal Hoyle, but I'm not sure. Was this in One Hour, or Take Out?

Hey

Very sure of my answer. It's in One Hour, when Don is talking about how David is the type to just quit one day, and listing a few reasons why and Bradford says ''Like the day you sent Ian Edgerton in to work over a suspect'' and the line you're referring to is ''You'd be surprised with what I know and how I know it''.

Hope that helps. Have fun writing.

[Kristen]

Hey

Very sure of my answer. It's in One Hour, when Don is talking about how David is the type to just quit one day, and listing a few reasons why and Bradford says ''Like the day you sent Ian Edgerton in to work over a suspect'' and the line you're referring to is ''You'd be surprised with what I know and how I know it''.

Hope that helps. Have fun writing.Thank you, thank you, thank you! It dovetails with what I've written perfectly. [insert mad cackle here]

[DreamBrother]

Thank you, thank you, thank you! It dovetails with what I've written perfectly. [insert mad cackle here]

Lol, can't wait. And you're welcome. Sorry can't help with your first question, I have no clue about the American agencies and how they work together....Wikipedia might have some stuff on each of them tho..

[Kristen]

Lol, can't wait. And you're welcome. Sorry can't help with your first question, I have no clue about the American agencies and how they work together....Wikipedia might have some stuff on each of them tho..You're going to have to be patient. :) I'm planning on this fic being 50,000 words long.

I did end up wiking stuff about the various agencies. However, I think I may have ended up a bit more confused then when I started though. What did we do before Google and Wikipedia?

[Hope]

We either checked stuff out of the library or made them up I guess...

-Hope

[Kristen]

We either checked stuff out of the library or made them up I guess...The library! *Gasp* That was so time consuming. However, I still want to reserve the right to make stuff up. ;)

[Miz Em]

The library! *Gasp* That was so time consuming. However, I still want to reserve the right to make stuff up. ;)

Goodness knows I'd never be able to write anything if I couldn't make stuff up! :eek:

[DreamBrother]

I have the fortune of being in the generation who never experienced life before Google and Encarta and all that. We might have bad music, but we got the internet goodies, this generation :D

[Jelsemium]

Can anyone point me in the direction of information about how the FBI, NSA, and the military generally work together?

I'm not an expert, but here are some promising looking books:

CIA And FBI (Fighting Terrorism)
by David Baker
SBN-13: 978-1595154828 - December, 2005.

The FBI : A Comprehensive Reference Guide (Paperback)
by Athan G. Theoharis, Tony G. Poveda, Susan Rosenfeld, Richard Gid Powers
ISBN-13: 978-0816042289 March, 2000

And, um, no offense intended...
The Complete Idiot's Guide to the FBI
by John Simeone and David Jacobs
978-0028644004 - Nov. 2002

[Kristen]

What do you know... The second one is at my local library and is currently sitting on the shelf. (Don't even think about it Hope!) Now, I wonder if I can find the time to swing by and snag it.

And I'm not going to take any offense at all on the third title. I probably need The Complete and Total Idiot's Guide to the FBI. :)

p.s. DreamBrother, what do you mean our music's bad? LOL!

[DreamBrother]

And I'm not going to take any offense at all on the third title. I probably need The Complete and Total Idiot's Guide to the FBI. :)

p.s. DreamBrother, what do you mean our music's bad? LOL!

Iwould love to have that book too, but I don't think I'd find it anywhere. Oh well. Imagination can go on over-drive to make up.

Ok, I'll grant you, we have the saving grace of Chris Cornell and Jeff Buckley (poor dude, RIP 1997) but with all the rap and Beyonce's and Shakira's and the *****cat Dolls? I mourn for my generation :) Classic Rock all the way, darling :)

[Hope]

What do you know... The second one is at my local library and is currently sitting on the shelf. (Don't even think about it Hope!) Now, I wonder if I can find the time to swing by and snag it.


*blinks innocently* Whatever are you talking about Kristen? Me? Snagging your book? ;) [And what are the chances we go to the same local library?...]

No. It's okay, you can have it. What I have (or more accurately, had until this morning) is a pile of federal employment books, including one very useful one that listed all federal jobs with qualifications and an actual explanation of what the positions are. I really liked one by Thomas H. Ackerman. It's big, yellow, weighs just slightly less than our yellow pages, and is called Federal Law Enforcement Careers. And now you're probably going to go get it, and I'll have to muddle through with my notes. Ah well. :) *giggles*

-Hope

[Jelsemium]

Iwould love to have that book too, but I don't think I'd find it anywhere. Oh well. Imagination can go on over-drive to make up.
:)

It's at Amazon.com & Barnes and Noble dot com. And lots of bookstores will special order for you, if you don't care to shop online.

[Kristen]

*blinks innocently* Whatever are you talking about Kristen? Me? Snagging your book? ;) [And what are the chances we go to the same local library?...]

No. It's okay, you can have it. What I have (or more accurately, had until this morning) is a pile of federal employment books, including one very useful one that listed all federal jobs with qualifications and an actual explanation of what the positions are. I really liked one by Thomas H. Ackerman. It's big, yellow, weighs just slightly less than our yellow pages, and is called Federal Law Enforcement Careers. And now you're probably going to go get it, and I'll have to muddle through with my notes. Ah well. :) *giggles*
I do go and find the book on Tuesday. It was in the reference section and had a big orange sticky that said “USE IN LIBRARY” so I didn’t check it out and instead browsed through it for an hour or so instead of trying to bribe a librarian to let me check it out. There was lots of stuff about the FBI’s history in it. I’d recommend it if you want indepth info about the FBI's history. The book is a bit dated so there isn't any info for stuff after 1997 or so.

There was a brief section about those who were arrested for espionage/treason. Richard W. Miller was the first FBI agent to hold the distinction. I didn’t look very deeply, but I can see a bit of a parallel with Dwayne in him.

There was also a section about how the FBI was used in popular culture where it mentioned the X-Files. I certainly hope the next edition mentions Numb3rs. :)

Hummm…I should just copy your notes like a bad student instead of going to the trouble of checking it out myself. :eek:

[Jelsemium]

Awright, Hope and Kristen, if you keep giggling in the library, then the Librarian will have to confiscate your books... and your notes... :p

[NUMB3RSnut]

DreamBrother,

I love classic rock (I have the Beatles, Jefferson Airplane, The Who, Bob Dylan, CSNY, The Eagles, Elton John, ELP, Foreigner, James Taylor, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Foreigner, Styx, King Crimson, Led Zeppelin, The Mamas and The Papas, Neil Young, George Harrison, Paul McCartney and Wings, Peter Frampton, The Police, The Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, Traffic, U2, Van Halen, John Lennon and Yoko Ono, and ZZ Top on my iPod ... I love classic rock and I'm 17!). :D (Okay, and I have some "modern" stuff on there, like Avril Lavigne, Dane Cook, Brian Regan, and The White Stripes)

Anywho, I'm writing a NUMB3RS fanfic (with some of my own characters thrown in) over the summer, and hopefully can get it on here eventually.

Happy writing and researching everybody!

~Cary

[elysium1996]

I'd like to add something in case you are interested about the FBI.

It was a 60 minutre documentary from national Geographic. I rented through netflicks. It was well done. Gave you a little glimps into things about them/ Here is the summary from netflicks. Not real indepth but still talked about the history of the FBI till about 2002.

With worries about the state of our national security increasing almost every day, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has been under more intense scrutiny than ever. This penetrating documentary offers high-security access behind the scenes at the FBI and offers insights as to how the Bureau operates.

It is voiced by Dennis Haysbert

[Kristen]

Ok... I've got another random question.

Is there a washer and dryer in the math garage?

[Jelsemium]

Ok... I've got another random question.

Is there a washer and dryer in the math garage?

If you mean Charlie's garage, then yes. There's been at least one episode - Scorched, if memory serves - where Alan was trying to do laundry while Charlie and Larry worked on a problem for Don.

[DreamBrother]

If you mean Charlie's garage, then yes. There's been at least one episode - Scorched, if memory serves - where Alan was trying to do laundry while Charlie and Larry worked on a problem for Don.

And in Pandora's Box, Alan comes to the garage with a basket of laundry before talking about the break-in.

[Kristen]

::rubs hands in glee:: Hehehe! Thanks guys.

[Jelsemium]

::rubs hands in glee:: Hehehe! Thanks guys.

Oh, dear, I have a bad feeling about this...

[Kristen]

Oh, dear, I have a bad feeling about this...What? I'm innocent. I just discovered the delights of Charlie whumping. There's nothing wrong with that. ;)

Is there?

[Jelsemium]

Nothing wrong with Charlie whumping? Hm, the rational and responisble part of my brain wants to disagree.

It's been outvoted.

Anyway, how about some volunteers to take the Q? There are lots of cool Q words! I'll quote myself from last year's challenge.

Speaking of Q words, there are some perfectly good Q words that would work for a Numb3rs story.

Quiz: Feds quiz people and Professors give quizzes. Or somebody could feel quizzical.


** Edited to add - I see that 'Quiz' has been used, but 'Quizzical' is a great word! **


Question was used (**in the first challenge), but query is another way of asking. It's also a way of getting information out of a computer. Or you could write about somebody who asks asks questions... a querent.

Quotient is the answer to a division problem, and would make a good title for a story about a mathematical mystery.

Quirky describes Larry very well. Quotidian doesn’t describe Larry, but it’s a word he might well use.



Most colleges have an open area called a "Quad". Not to mention "quad" is a perfectly good prefix (relating to the number four) and is used in many scientific words => quadrangle (four angles, from whence "Quad" gets its name), quadraped (four legged), quadrillion (which IS a number), quadratic equation (who could forget that one?)

"Quint" is another numerical term indicating "five"

Plus there are everyday words: quart, quartz, queen, queer, quack, quick, quickly, quiet was used last time, but there's still quietly, quality, quantity, qualm, quip

There are also proper names:
Qui-Gon Jinn, anybody?
Quiznos sandwiches?
Qatar is a country in the Middle East
Querétaro de Arteaga and Quintana Roo are states in Mexico.
Quito is a city in Ecuador

Don't forget:

quixotic - unrealistic idealism
quahog - a type of clam
quagga - an extinct animal related to the zebra
QWERTY - your keyboard arrangement!
querida - a Spanish endearment

For more Q words...

Your Dictionary dot com (http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/browse/66.html#q)

Unusual Q Words (http://phrontistery.info/q.html)

These were last year's "Q" stories.

Quarry
Quiet
Questions
Quiet Time
Quandry
Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? (Who guards the guardians? Latin quotes are great for the Q)
Quidnuncs (Another word from Latin, it means 'busybodies'. This is a funny David and Colby story if you're still depressed over the season ender.)
Quake
Quiet Reflections
Quiz
Quietude
Quantum Physics
Quivering
Quarter of Three

[Kristen]

Anyway, how about some volunteers to take the Q? There are lots of cool Q words!Are you having difficulties giving out the Qs? I might offer to take one in a month or so once I finish the current monster I'm working on. But I can't help you immediately. :(

[Jelsemium]

Are you having difficulties giving out the Qs? I might offer to take one in a month or so once I finish the current monster I'm working on. But I can't help you immediately. :(

Yeah, the 'Q' and the 'X' don't seem to be too popular.

You know, you can post the first chapter of your story and claim another letter, if you want.

[Kristen]

Yeah, the 'Q' and the 'X' don't seem to be too popular.

You know, you can post the first chapter of your story and claim another letter, if you want.I would... except I haven't written it yet. I can't write chronologically. I write a scene in the middle and then near the end and then something in the beginningish. Then I have to connect the dots. I have two ideas as to how to start the fic, but I'm not sure yet what the best one is.

Of course I'm at the stage where I think the nearly 20,000 words I've got are complete crap... It'll pass. (Hopefully soon.)

[DreamBrother]

Yeah, the 'Q' and the 'X' don't seem to be too popular.



My exams are over, I am in a beneficient mood. I promise I'll take one of those pesky letters in a round. If I'm feeling extra happy in August because of a great result, I'll take both. But until then, I'm going to be content with my C :D

I hope somebody writes a story for ''Qwagga'. I love saying it...Qwagga...

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Qwagga :o

[Jelsemium]

I would... except I haven't written it yet. I can't write chronologically. I write a scene in the middle and then near the end and then something in the beginningish. Then I have to connect the dots. I have two ideas as to how to start the fic, but I'm not sure yet what the best one is.

Of course I'm at the stage where I think the nearly 20,000 words I've got are complete crap... It'll pass. (Hopefully soon.)

Ahhh... got you.

Been there, done that, have the stalled Epic on FanFiction.net to prove it.

[valeriev84]

Hello,

I've been working on my challenge response and I need to know what episode Charlie used his social network analysis in. I've looked around, but none of the sites that I know of list which math was done in what episode, which I think would be incredibly helpful, so if anyone knows of such a site, please let me know!


Valerie

[Kristen]

Hello,

I've been working on my challenge response and I need to know what episode Charlie used his social network analysis in. I've looked around, but none of the sites that I know of list which math was done in what episode, which I think would be incredibly helpful, so if anyone knows of such a site, please let me know!


Valerie
Was it Under Pressure? LadyShelley's RedHawke site lists lost of the math and the episodes. Although the direct "All the Math" section doesn't say what episode the math was used in, the "Episode Guide" area lists it in the "Related Items" box.

http://www.redhawke.org/content/view/413/84/

Hope this helps!

[Jelsemium]

Hello,

I've been working on my challenge response and I need to know what episode Charlie used his social network analysis in. I've looked around, but none of the sites that I know of list which math was done in what episode, which I think would be incredibly helpful, so if anyone knows of such a site, please let me know!


Valerie

A site that lists the math in each episode would be cool. I don't know of one, but I'll keep an eye out.

Meanwhile, I think the episode that you're looking for is Seaon Two's "Protest."

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b130/Jelsemium/Numb3rs/Charlie%20and%20Rubick/p425.jpg

[Kristen]

I forgot about Protest. It could have been that one too.

If anyone else is interested I went back to haunt the library and found a book called "Interviewing and Interogation" by Don Rabon. From a writing perspective it is cool to read some of the transcripts. Amazing how you can read so much into a single word, phrase, or posture. I love dialogue!

[valeriev84]

Protest! Yes, that's it! Thanks.

It was quite frustrating, I could see Charlie and Amita sitting outside and talking and, while Charlie was speaking, seeing the camera zoom in on people and chalk lines connecting friends, romances and unlikely connections but I couldn't remember the episode!

As for such a site, I'm really hoping it eventually appears. In the Harry Potter fandom there is a site called the Lexicon and it lists absolutely everything from the series, all the people ever mentioned, all the potions/spells/charms/ingredients/place/animals/books/titles... in all of the books along with all the information Rowling has ever given in interviews. It's a fan fic author's dream.

[the real Amita]

Hey guys...I kinda need a writing prompt....Im doing the abc challenge and have no inspiration for my O is for ? I don't even have a name...It's Don and Charlie centric....please help!!!

[jlm110108]

Have you written the story and you're just looking for a title?

I have a couple of tricks I use when I'm looking for inspiration. First, I go to redhawke.org, click on "ruinning the numb3rs" and then on "all the math" Then I look at the alphabetical list of math terms and see if anything helps.

If that doesn't help, I take a piece of paper and just start writing all the words I can think of that start with the letter. If that doesn't work, I just start going through a dictionary.

If that doesn't help, I just let it simmer for a while. Eventually, inspiration will hit.

You're looking for an o?

offhand: olive oil "once upon a time" overture over out Oswald Orion orange oust oak ouch ow one

Jo

[DreamBrother]

O is for Oops? Osmosis.. Orville-Redenbach (popcorn is on my mind)...Opportunity..Opulent (King Lear time)...Othello... I should really be able to come up with more O words.

What works for me, especially inspiration, is song titles. Like, just a word from the title will send off in a direction, even if it's nothing relevant to the song.

Good luck!

[Jelsemium]

Here's a site with some unusual words that start with 'O'.

http://phrontistery.info/o.html

[the real Amita]

Thanks guys...:D lots...:D I may actually be able to write again..lol...:D

[DreamBrother]

Thanks for the link, Jels. I always find something nice when I go there...Daconomania ;) And this time an N word I can't remember exactly but have written down somewhere. Too bad I've already done N.


I do have one quick question though: What did Charlie do to Oxford for?

Let's say he did his under-grad at Princeton, post-grad somewhere else, maybe CalSci, so now he'd be 20ish. He was living with Susan at 21 for 2 years.

Anybody got any hunches as to why? I was kinda thinking perhaps for his PhD? And maybe he started to lecture there first of all?

[Jelsemium]

I thought Charlie went to Cambridge?

I'm not sure, but I think he would have had his PhD by then.

[Hope]

I think Charlie went to Cambridge too... Maybe he went there as a guest professor, or to do some research. After all, I think the man who solved Fermat's Enigma also teachers at Cambridge... or Oxford *ducks* so it's entirely possible Charlie went there to teach/research for a project. It could be also how he encountered Susan, as a fellow colleague.

[DreamBrother]

According to All's Fair, Charlie has a ''standing invitation'' to lecture at Cambridge. Does that mean he's been there before for stuff?

And where in the world did Oxford come into my head from, then? Must be the peeve that these 2 uni's have such big egos that on the UCAS application, if you pick one, you can't also pick the other. Why? Because they don't want to be second in line to the other. Urgh! from a student's perspective.

Thanks for the help guys! Cambridge it is and to... do research. What's a better place to come up with the Eppes Convergence in than the old old beautiful buildings of Cambridge? Sorry Oxford.

:)

[Kristen]

Help! What is the brand name of the pain medication for menstral cramp relief? The name on the tip of my tounge, but I can't come up with it. And its driving me crazy.

[NUMB3RSnut]

Kristen,

Is it Midol?

~Cary

[Kristen]

That's it!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you! I racked my brain for hours and came up empty on too many google searches.

[squelchything]

Charlie was 13 when he went to Princeton, right? Did it it take him three years to get his Bachelors or the normal four? I thought it was three, but then he said to Larry about him growing a moustache in his junior year, which suggests that he had a junior year...as opposed to a junior semester and a bit or something.

I imagine Don would not have been happy if Charlie nded up graduating college a year before him....

[Jelsemium]

Charlie was 13 when he went to Princeton, right? Did it it take him three years to get his Bachelors or the normal four? I thought it was three, but then he said to Larry about him growing a moustache in his junior year, which suggests that he had a junior year...as opposed to a junior semester and a bit or something.

I imagine Don would not have been happy if Charlie nded up graduating college a year before him....

I have a vague impression that somebody said that Charlie had graduated from college when he was 16, but I could be wrong.

I never had a "junior" year. When I transferred from junior college, I had too many credits and was listed as a senior. Maybe Charlie never had a "freshmen" year. He might have already had enough college credits by then to skip that.

I don't suppose Don would have cared much at that point. He and Charlie weren't in the same school, so it wasn't as bad as having him graduate at the same time.

[megan_reeves]

If I posted a story about a fedcake getting held hostage by a rapist (not getting raped), would that be considered PG-13? Or should I just link to it?

[Jelsemium]

If I posted a story about a fedcake getting held hostage by a rapist (not getting raped), would that be considered PG-13? Or should I just link to it?

As far as I can tell, if there's no rape (or other sex) depicted in the story, it can be rated PG.

[wildfyre]

I think you'd be pretty safe posting it, m_r.

[megan_reeves]

Thank you! :D

[squelchything]

The house of Eppes is in Pasadena, yes?

Whereabouts in the city is it likely to be, given that it's historic and all that? Is there a particular neighbourhood with those sort of houses? And how far would they be from, say, CalSci and the Rose Bowl?

[Jelsemium]

The Eppes' Craftsman is in Pasadena, yes.

Pasadena has lots of lovely old houses, I don't think there's any one area where they are.

CalSci is the Numb3rs-verse version of CalTech, so you can use CalTech's locations to approximate anything you need to know about CalSci. (Cal Tech is about five miles from the Rose Bowl.)

I was under the impression that Charlie rode his bike to school, so I expect that the Eppes Craftsman is five miles or less from CalTech.

[squelchything]

The Eppes' Craftsman is in Pasadena, yes.

Pasadena has lots of lovely old houses, I don't think there's any one area where they are.



So no-one's going to pop up and say, No Craftman houses within three miles of CalTech/Sci? Oh, good.

[squelchything]

Oh help, I'm back again.


Is Amita an only child?


And, do we know where she did her undergraduate degree?

(Incidentally, why is Charlie her thesis advisor when she's doing a PhD in s1? I was under the impression that in America you did a dissertation for a PhD and a thesis for a Master, although over here it's the exact opposite: thesis for PhD, dissertation for Masters or the Honours component of a Bachelor's.)